# Podcasts with me in it [21: Innovation Systems with Ben Reinhardt – Narratives Podcast](https://narrativespodcast.com/2020/12/21/21-innovation-systems-with-ben-reinhardt/) <!-- #list --> [Web URL for this note](http://notes.benjaminreinhardt.com/Podcasts+with+me+in+it) [Comment on this note](http://via.hypothes.is/http://notes.benjaminreinhardt.com/Podcasts+with+me+in+it) <!-- {BearID:2132BC6B-04A5-4D22-AFB4-5FBC51B29AE2-26147-0005BE82F0F4EAA3} -->