# Most online communities feel impotent
### Hypotheses
* No norms or expectations
* No shared goals
* I don’t understand how I’m supposed to interact
* No way to create personal connection - it’s basically all a presentation on a stage
* Quickly go beyond Dunbar’s number before there’s any culture transmission
* The ‘introduction’ thread on slack feels like screaming into a void and there’s no way to connect someone to their
* Feels like everybody is just trying to get attention and be an influencer
* Fomo and/or overwhelm at all the things that happen when you’re not there
* [[Fully open online discussions are low quality because of trust and context]]
### Examples of historical communities that seem to have worked
* [[Ben Frankin’s Junto]]
* [[Royal Society of the Arts]] (see [[Arts and Minds]])
* [[Tuxedo Park]]
* Early [[Y Combinator]]
* Open source communities
### Related
* [[Mark McGranaghan conversation 19 Jun 2020]]
* [[Do communities necessarily need not-busy people to curate them?]]
* [[Third Places as community builder]]
* [[Presenting to peers regularly encourages you to get shit together]]
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