# How many potentially amazing program managers exist?
There are two ways of estimating this:
1. **Top Down**. Start with the existing amazing program managers and ask how many more of them there could be.
2. **Bottom Up** Start with the population of the world and narrow it down to the amazing program managers based on how common characteristics are. This way is harder but more principled?
### Top Down Estimate
My guess is order ~10E4
Currently there are order ~10E2 in existing orgs. Generously, let’s say half are good.
### Bottom up Estimate
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