# §Misalignment between funders and nonprofits in research
* [[Comparing VC firms and funding institutions and programs is a useful intuition pump]]
* [[Trust is a core driver of the funding mismatch]]
* [[Pitching is a competition-driven equilibrium in precommercial scitech]]
* [[Precommercial scitech funding is taste based]]
* [[Funders want to follow other funders]] (probably because of the trust thing)
* [[It is hard for precommercial scitech projects to differentiate themselves]]
* This suggests that the goal for initial funding is not to show promising results but to show *differentiating* results
* [[Philanthropists want things to become sustainable]]
* ==needs work== [[I am not sold on the exact implementation or person but am sold on the goal]]
* ==needs work==[[Nobody is running interference for new institutions]]
* ==needs work==[[Precommercial scitech funding falls on spectrums of uncertainty around producing money and amount of control a funder has]]
* [[Philanthropists want to be the catalytic dollar]]
* ==needs work==[[More applications mean less time per application and less technical which biases towards snappy things]]
* Funders want to see their dollars used efficiently, but [[Efficiency biases systems towards false negatives]]
* ==needs work==[[Catalytic funding needs to launch into an existing ecosystem to be effective]]
* Funders feel comfortable making small bets on weird things but small bets are much less useful without tranches
* Something about double down problem
* Small bets don’t address [[Shadows of the Future]] which creates a chicken-and-egg problem
* How are private funders different than the government? [[Intuition pump]]
* Unlike the government, private funders do not *have* to fund, which leads to a *high opportunity cost*
* [[People want to be loved and be lovely]] — no matter how much we convince ourselves that we care about abstract concepts or the future, there are very few
* [[People have different and unknown caring money thresholds]]
* Feelings of ownership/control can stand at odds to letting people explore the weird
* Many of the sorts of funders who are interested in science and technology bottlenecks are also very metrics driven either from a background in tech and KPIs or from a utilitarian standpoint. A strong focus on metrics *in that sense* stands at odds to a lot of research.
* We don’t celebrate funders! See the derisive attitude of “rich person’s toys”
* [[We do not give enough credit to good philanthropic funders]]
* “Hope” mismatch/ people don’t like funding wicked problems
* People want to se a “clever” solution /[[Precise why nows seem important for making people feel like they can intervene]]
* But then this incentivizes people to make over optimistic estimates
* Funders need to see paths to success — or maybe that’s not right but they need to see some expected value
* This thing is vague and hard doesn’t cut it
* Perception vs reality bottlenecks [[Bottlenecks]]
* People were excited about geothermal because it *didn’t* seem bottlenecked. Or at least seemed tractably bottlenecked
* Nobody wants to put money into something that’s hopeless — this is the tension
* By contrast, People tend to be excited to intervene in areas where there is a clear intervention — maybe this is the right instinct.
* Something weird in incentive misalignment where people go “if only we had an answer” and then I and other people are like HERE IS AN ANSWER but then they’re like “oh if only there was an answer”
* Not very much coordination between wealthy individuals
* Need a coordinator like the [[Sloan Foundation]]
* Problem is that everybody wants the credit
* Timescale mismatches
* People don’t see science/technology funding as charity
* Ambiguity over whether a project will be a public good or not
* Almost by definition people trying to create new institutional structures are not creditable; people who have built things before generally get stuck in a different institutional mindset.
* [[Pay-it-forward tithing is underrated]] — the attitude of “I should do this” instead of “I want to get something out of this”
* Funders don’t actually use any of their *power* to help
* [[Funding is a zero sum game]]
* [[Funding for new institutions isn’t about the money]]
### Anecdotes
* WorldCoin + [[Sam Altman]]
* https://twitter.com/Ben_Reinhardt/status/1409858188971757573?s=20
* There is the anecdotal story of <unnammed billionaire> being willing to put in $100k only if another <unnamed billionaire> puts in $200k. This seems utterly ridiculous, but representative.
* From [[Funders want to follow other funders]]
* [[Dynamicland]]!??
* [[Philanthropy has pathetic traunching]]
### Related
* [[People aren’t super excited about funding one off science projects]]
* [[Funding unlocked might be a good way to measure the ROI on addressing bottlenecks]]
* [[People like funding winners]]
* [[Nobody will admit that a field is stuck]]
* [[The only time you can get philanthropies to do interesting things is at the beginning]]
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